"Give me the child until he is seven, and I will give you the man," runs a quote attributed to St. Ignatius of Loyola, the founder of the Jesuit order; Getting the right stuff into eager young minds as early as possible is clearly important to some; The Hong Kong government now wants some of that "right stuff" to be part of what it likes to call the "Moral and National Education" subject for primary and secondary students; The subject has yet to be introduced, but it is the topic of The Pulse for tonight; With us in the studio are Cheung Kwok-wah of the Education Bureau, and Lee Chack-fan who is chairman of an ad-hoc committee set up to oversee the implementation of the classes. And we also have with us Pauline Chow of the Women Teachers' Organisation, and Ip Kin-yuen of the Professional Teachers' Union.